Confederate Islamophobia

Once again, Confederate Heritage advocates find themselves in agreement with the Ku Klux Klan over another racial and/or religious issues. On Monday, the Huffington Post reported that Washington state residents found anti-Muslim fliers on their windshields which originated from the Klan. Similar incidents occurred earlier this year in Pineville, Louisiana but this is nothing new in 2015. The Klan have been outspoken proponents of intolerance since their birth in 1865. Islamaphobia is just a 21st century spin on that WASP mentality. It should also come as no surprise that Confederate Heritage advocates find themselves, once again, in agreement with the Klan. 

On January 30, 2015, on of the most outspoken proponents of Confederate Heritage penned this authoritative statement.

There are numerous comments to be made about her asinine post; such as how Isis does not reflect the whole of the Islamic community. However, those comments will have little to no effect on someone who believes herself to be right; despite evidence to the contrary. So let’s see, ardent defense of the Confederate Flag and monuments? Check. Insensitivity towards those of a different race? Check. It appears that intolerance of other religions can be added to that list. I do find this to be a sad case of irony though. Numerous Confederate Heritage/Neo-Know Nothings love to throw out the argument that their ancestors fought for freedom and independence from a country that trampled on the Constitution. Now those heritage advocates trample on one of the founding principles of the United States; religious freedom.

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18 thoughts on “Confederate Islamophobia

  1. Isabel

    Damn it, Rob! I had almost forgotten that Connie Chastain existed! Oh life was so nice back then…

    Good thing it’s not up to the Neo-Know-Nothings (Did you make up that name? ’cause it’s perfect) whether or not free people practice Islam.

    This is once again the trouble with these ignorant historical white-washers, they fail to put history in context.

    1. Ha. Unfortunately I did not make up the term “Neo-Know-Nothing.” It is particularly brilliant.

      This is once again the trouble with these ignorant historical white-washers, they fail to put history in context.

      I agree.

      1. Isabel

        Whoops, I meant to say, “Good thing it’s not…” I’m going to post another comment shortly. IDK if you can edit my previous one, or just add this one.

  2. Jimmy Dick

    While I could single out Chastain for her ignorance, it is on the same level with the rest of the heritage crowd and a lot of other stupid people as well. You know them. They are the ones that place memes on Facebook about torture which shows the Twin Towers struck by terrorists and a caption suggesting torture would have prevented the attacks. The part where the CIA torture program failed to generate any useful information gets ignored by these cretins. They are not interested in the truth. They just want to feel good.

    I am fortunate that I get to cover a lot of this through teaching. I get the opportunity to use facts to combat ignorance. The students are not stupid. Almost all of them already know Islam is not a threat to the US and that ISIS is made up of fanatics who are scorned by the rest of the Islam. That right there suggests there is a gap in intelligence in this country. The heritage types fit in with a large group of imbeciles who lack the brainpower to advance beyond simple thought processes. They do not employ critical thinking abilities because they have never been taught how to do so.

    This group is the lowest common denominator in America today. They prefer stupidity over complex thought. They do not wish to think nor do they seek to consider any other perspective than their own. They are easily manipulated by others who use them for their own purposes and are too ignorant to understand what is going on around them. That group succumbs to the use of fear tactics. Look at the post. She uses the fear factor of being different from the herd to scare people into thinking like she wants them to think which is to think like her.

    She fails to look beyond the scene. She sees something and instead of looking for information to develop a perspective immediately jumps to a conclusion and then seeks to use fear tactics to align others to her view. “Think like me or you are not part of the herd!” Why would anyone want to be part of her herd? That herd willingly ignores facts. The sad part is that herd has closed their minds to any information which would result in changing their views. If any member of the herd were to do so, the rest would turn on them for being different.

    The good news is that herd is shrinking through natural attrition. A few brave souls leave that group when they reach the point where they can no longer tolerate the ignorance, the racism, the bigotry, or the hate. I applaud those individuals who choose to expand their minds and have the courage to move past the dead end that hatred results from. Others reach the end of their lifespan and pass away. The number of people joining the herd of ignorance is dwarfed by the number of people leaving it. All you have to do is look at the photographs and you see very few members under the age of 50.

    This reflects the general population on many things too. I’ve noticed that most of the people making the torture memes are older. I see very few people under 40 participating in the use of that meme or others of that ilk. When I speak with my students I often am surprised by their views which are often very liberal. In fact, their conversations reveal little support for conservative ideology. They also reveal the use of critical thinking practices in developing their opinions. So I take heart that as the older generation passes away, it is being replaced by people who are pretty intelligent and will be fine stewards for this nation. I just hope we give them something worth being proud of and not more of the hate filled rhetoric which is so common from the herd of the ignorant like Chastain and the Neo-Know Nothings.

  3. Jimmy/Rob
    You two knuckle heads equate the present day klan with the South. The klan has not been an exclusive Southern organization since the 1880’s, y’all do know that don’t you? Why does Ms Connie scare y’all so much? Could it be she knows as much (or more) about history as you too knuckle heads do? To me its unseemly and un manly for y’all to attack her with such venom and vile.
    Now y’all are welcome to attack me all y’all want, I have been attacked for less form a lot better.

    1. You two knuckle heads equate the present day klan with the South. The klan has not been an exclusive Southern organization since the 1880’s, y’all do know that don’t you?

      I’ve never made that assumption, nor would I.

      Why does Ms Connie scare y’all so much? Could it be she knows as much (or more) about history as you too knuckle heads do? To me its unseemly and un manly for y’all to attack her with such venom and vile.
      Now y’all are welcome to attack me all y’all want, I have been attacked for less form a lot better.

      You’re welcome to think that. I won’t be attacking you though, I feel that you would enjoy such a situation as self gratifying to the victim mentality prevalent in Confederate Heritage.

    2. Jimmy Dick

      All you have to do is read her posts to know that she does not know her history. She continually makes incorrect statements.

      As for the KKK, unfortunately hate does spread. It exists in many forms. It usually involves stupid people willingly following people who use fear to manipulate the stupid people. Fortunately, we are educating people and that process is reducing the level of hate in the US.

      1. I’d agree with that. I cover the three major waves of the Klan in class (1865, 1915, & 1950s & 60s). We talk about those radical elements of hate. But I think it’s important to remember that these groups are never stamped out because people share their views directly and/or indirectly. Connie is an excellent example of that.

  4. As for the Liberal’s (yankees), unfortunately hate does spread. It exists in many forms. It usually involves stupid people willingly following people who use fear to manipulate the stupid people. Fortunately, we are educating people and that process is reducing the level of hate in the US.

    See Jimmy how easy it is to change the narritave? Is our truth no greater than yours?

    “But I think it’s important to remember that these groups are never stamped out because people share their views directly and/or indirectly. Connie is an excellent example of that.”
    Mr Baker where is your proof?

    1. Simply rephrasing a sentence to fit your narrative does not promote a truth; it promotes a distortion. Of course, you know distortion well considering Confederate Heritage’s belief in the “Lost Cause” narrative.

      You mean besides her blatant islamophobia, homophobia, and racist tendencies?…

    2. Jimmy Dick

      Well Jessie, when your version of the truth consists of ignoring the facts, then yes, my truth is greater than yours. Facts are funny things. You can can try to change the narrative, but those facts will trip you up every time. That is why the heritage groups are failing. They don’t use facts.

  5. Isabel

    Jessie, it’s lost on me how you read that Rob’s post “equate[s] the present day klan with the South.” He’s clearly posted, and Jimmy clearly agreed, that it is Confederate Heritage quacks that fall under the same intolerant narrative as the Klan. My thankfully short experiences with Ms. Chastain demonstrated that she knows very little about anything. Although, it seems that she can write the hell out of some sexist books according to some.

    Ms. Chastain’s posts are not “scary.” They’re sad. They dilute public discourse. Rather than making passionate arguments based on factual information or historical context, she goes with good ol’ truthiness. I often wonder why folks like Jimmy & Rob engage in any conversation with these people, but I’ve come to the conclusion that someone has to. There’s too much opportunity for hate in the internet echo chamber, so if a few rational arguments gets sprinkled in Chastain’s blog or some other Confederate quack’s blog…it’s probably for the better.

    Also, I’m curious: why is it unmanly to question the validity of a blogger’s post when she’s a woman? Ms. Chastain puts herself out there, for better or worse, and I am sure reads about her writing often. She must expect that there will be disagreement about her conclusions, as I suspect she puts on a show in the same way that Fox News Blonde 283c does. I suspect she enjoys being controversial, at least I must think so otherwise, if this many people believe their bullshit, the world is a terrible place. It’s easy for a diminishing majority to find solace in victimhood. There’s always someone to blame, loudly and grammatically incorrect! I don’t think her sensibilities are going to be destroyed if men comment on her conclusions. Take it from someone who has called Rob sexist at least once in her life, for what I thought were good reasons, he doesn’t seem to give a flying @#$% that I or anyone else is a particular gender. So, please come up with a better reason than Ms. Chastain’s presumed gender to convince people not to “attack” her moronic blog.

    I’m not sure why Heritage folks hate the “Liberal (Yankees).” You would be surprised at how many Liberals exist in your zip code. This false dichotomy about liberals and conservatives is so tired.

    The Confederate Heritage narrative is rejected by a GIGANTIC percentage of your beloved South (and I’d bet the majority of the country). Does that sound familiar? ISIS’ narrative is rejected by a GIGANTIC percentage of people practicing Islam. You guys just aren’t as sophisticated, and your cushy lives don’t propel you to make any stupid moves; you movement is made up of just pathetic nostalgia, but don’t worry it’ll be over soon.

    1. BorderRuffian

      “you[r] movement is made up of just pathetic nostalgia, but don’t worry it’ll be over soon.”

      Cultural cleansing?

      1. No one advocated cultural cleansing…personally I think that’s impossible. We all share a cultural baggage which helps shape our actions consciously and subconsciously. Also, Confederate Heritage is not a cultural facet in so much as Southern Culture is.

        I’ll disagree with you over the flag, but I’ll fight for my cornbread….

        1. Jimmy Dick

          and beans. Gotta have the beans. While we’re at it let’s save the grits!

          Funny story about grits. I was a mess cook in a Missouri National Guard company on our annual training down at Ft. Chaffee in the 90s. The rations came in and as we unloaded them I saw a big bag of grits. Now I knew what grits were and I liked them. I had been joking with the other soldiers that I was going to be serving grits instead of eggs because we were going to be in a southern state and that in the South people didn’t eat eggs, they ate grits. None of these guys had served or lived in the South so they were in various states of disbelief as to whether I was pulling their legs or not.

          So, I being the practical joker I am had the grits ready to go for breakfast and hid the eggs under the counter. The company came in for breakfast and I was standing there whipping out grits left and right, but no eggs. As you can guess, there were some pretty odd looks on those faces until I pulled out a case of eggs for the grill and laughed. I then uncovered a whole pan of scrambled eggs I had already made.

          Now for the best part. I didn’t use all the grits. I knew after a week out in the woods working their tails off those guys would be hungry. After a few days I made up grits and took them out with the other breakfast items. Half of those guys were pretty happy to see those grits. The other half weren’t hungry enough yet, but by the end of the training there were few guys saying no.

          1. People in the flatland south just don’t understand Cornbread and Pinto Beans. That’s a meal in and of itself. Down here around Atlanta where I teach, most of the cornbread resembles a corn muffin. In the words of Jackson “Too sweet.”

            Grandma always said if you can’t eat grits with a fork they’re not worth your time.

            The point being, a victim mentality that exists among many Confederate Heritage advocates. This is easily visible. More and more of them shape this mentality into an opposition to what they perceive as “cultural genocide.” It’s a silly argument. Culture is inescapable as long as people are alive. Whether one likes it or not, culture is also passed down to subsequent generations. In Battle: A History of Combat and Culture, John Lynn refers to this as ‘cultural baggage.’ So even when the current advocates dwindle in numbers, aspects of what those people perceive as “Confederate Heritage” will emerge in subsequent generations regardless.

            Don’t expect the flag waivers to consider this though.

      2. Isabel

        No, I think that’s their end, not mine. I’m happy to disagree, that’s a foundation for our country. The problem is that you can’t disagree over factually wrong information, in that there’s an actual answer. Truthiness is hard to get around. I just think that ignorance and bigotry get a little harder to support with each generation.

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